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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 10, 2009 11:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: More about Jerry's tone: Strings

sorry--brief hijack, BUT had to tell you, Earl, I just got a call (recording) "calling me to action: a Tea Party"!!?

I didn't think you had my number...or did you receive one too and it prompted your post?

I rarely listen to such things, but it was mercifully short and sweet, and all I really heard was the tea party comment, and then it closed with "be aware of what your government is doing" or some such...

Compared to the "recent activity on your credit card..." or "is your AC working..." made this one much better than the usual calls I field these days!

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Apr 10, 2009 11:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: More about Jerry's tone: Strings

So, Fox News and the GOP want to teabag you? It's too funny.

Just curious how the FCC thinks it's ok for a major news corp. to take political sides (right or wrong):

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/09/rachel-maddow-ana-marie-c_n_185445.html
[Have to admit, even if you can't stand her, this is pretty damn funny since GOP/FOX (which is which?) have apparently no clue re use of the term "teabagging")

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Apr 14, 2009 2:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry who?

Ask NBC, MSNBC and 90% of the newspapers... I was wondering the same thing myself.

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Poster: Edsel Date: Apr 10, 2009 12:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: More about Jerry's tone: Strings

"Just curious how the FCC thinks it's ok for a major news corp. to take political sides (right or wrong)"

Been off the planet for the last couple of years ?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Apr 10, 2009 1:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: More about Jerry's tone: Strings

I know - irony is not always my strong suit when it comes to posting (and assisting a hijack).

The hypocrisy is so amazing (and would be more amusing if not so sad).

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 10, 2009 1:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: More about Jerry's tone: Strings

Now, wait a minute...you lost me...I find the tea bagging thing silly, and the reporting on it, amusing. Were you saying the FCC should regulate the folks that the tea bag lady's show was mocking? Or that the tea bag lady should be regulated?

I really don't know--just asking...you know, like the Coach K comment; I can be a little dense.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Apr 10, 2009 2:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: More about Jerry's tone: Strings

No, that Fox is organizing these "tea bag" protests. Could you imagine what Fox would have said if CNN or MSNBC was involved in, say, organizing voter registration drives with ACORN?


http://mediamatters.org/items/200904090010?f=h_latest

... where I'll be on Monday night (CAN'T WAIT):

It's coming through a hole in the air,
from those nights in Tiananmen Square.
It's coming from the feel
that this ain't exactly real,
or it's real, but it ain't exactly there.
From the wars against disorder,
from the sirens night and day,
from the fires of the homeless,
from the ashes of the gay:
Democracy is coming to the U.S.A.
It's coming through a crack in the wall;
on a visionary flood of alcohol;
from the staggering account
of the Sermon on the Mount
which I don't pretend to understand at all.
It's coming from the silence
on the dock of the bay,
from the brave, the bold, the battered
heart of Chevrolet:
Democracy is coming to the U.S.A.

It's coming from the sorrow in the street,
the holy places where the races meet;
from the homicidal bitchin'
that goes down in every kitchen
to determine who will serve and who will eat.
From the wells of disappointment
where the women kneel to pray
for the grace of God in the desert here
and the desert far away:
Democracy is coming to the U.S.A.

Sail on, sail on
O mighty Ship of State!
To the Shores of Need
Past the Reefs of Greed
Through the Squalls of Hate
Sail on, sail on, sail on, sail on.

It's coming to America first,
the cradle of the best and of the worst.
It's here they got the range
and the machinery for change
and it's here they got the spiritual thirst.
It's here the family's broken
and it's here the lonely say
that the heart has got to open
in a fundamental way:
Democracy is coming to the U.S.A.

It's coming from the women and the men.
O baby, we'll be making love again.
We'll be going down so deep
the river's going to weep,
and the mountain's going to shout Amen!
It's coming like the tidal flood
beneath the lunar sway,
imperial, mysterious,
in amorous array:
Democracy is coming to the U.S.A.

Sail on, sail on ...

I'm sentimental, if you know what I mean
I love the country but I can't stand the scene.
And I'm neither left or right
I'm just staying home tonight,
getting lost in that hopeless little screen.
But I'm stubborn as those garbage bags
that Time cannot decay,
I'm junk but I'm still holding up
this little wild bouquet:
Democracy is coming to the U.S.A.


This post was modified by bluedevil on 2009-04-10 21:06:28

This post was modified by bluedevil on 2009-04-10 21:07:55

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Apr 10, 2009 2:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: More about Jerry's tone: Strings

You lucky dog! Laughin' Lenny rules.... :)

"I was born like this
I had no choice
I was born with the gift
Of a Golden Voice..."

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 10, 2009 2:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: More about Jerry's tone: Strings

Ah--got it. And, yes--that came thru that the lady was mocking FOX folks for doing it...duh.

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Poster: kochman Date: Apr 10, 2009 2:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: More about Jerry's tone: Strings

Bluedevil, you are clearly out of your mind... unbiased news? Like MSNBC? CNN?
Get out of here. I can't even believe you consider those to be unbiased, and FOXNEWS biased. All 3 of those are clearly biased. Did you miss the entire election season?

Anyhow, they are private organizations, so they can promote whatever they hell they want (and lose customers because of it, on BOTH sides).

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 10, 2009 2:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: More about Jerry's tone: Strings

K-man: hey, I have no axe to grind, trust me, but as a scientist, and one that prides himself on objectivity, anyone that listens to any of these folks, adds them all up and then divides by their IQ, recognizes that the conservative folks are so far out ahead of the liberals in nasty talk it is amazing...seriously, I am largely apolitical, but the folks that spout "liberal media bias" are the same ones that say "universities turn our kids into atheists" (of course, the second follows, logically). If you just listen randomly to ten talk shows, add up the negatives against liberals vs the negatives against conservatives, it is amazing how biase it is against liberals.

I could care less, as the are ALL morons (Earl told me so), but facts are facts.

On another subject, I though of you and NC last night while reading a new analysis of the Germans (the same guy that did the myth of the great war; Moiser or some such). He certainly shoots down some of my dogma. I will keep an open mind.

Good to see you here abouts.

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Poster: kochman Date: Apr 10, 2009 2:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: More about Jerry's tone: Strings

Sure, radio talk shows are hugely biased toward conservatives.
Publications are hugely biased towards liberals.
TV is hugely biased towards liberals too, mainly because the people on TV tend to be liberal (remember, many of these people were in "drama" or other such classes when little).

I think it all evens out really. I don't listen to any of them anymore, including the politicians, because while everyone else may be biased, ALL the politicians ARE liars.

I just found it amazing that someone could honestly make a statement that only FOXNEWS is biased. I don't watch any of those channels. Nor do I vote anymore, I completely dropped out of politics, and being unable to find unbiased sources was a huge reason why.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 10, 2009 3:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: More about Jerry's tone: Strings

I hear ya, I hear ya! So, this fellow makes some very interesting statistical analyses, one of which is that the Germans were so good (something I think we both agree on) because of the disproportionate number of lower level officers (per grunt ranks) relative to French, Brit and US armies, and that was the primary factor in their succes (ie, tactical supremcy, etc., etc.; which again, we probably agree on). But, he also takes on any number of "myths" that have been accepted over the years for both WWI and WWII, some of which I buy into (ie, the debunking aspect--eg, that the allies suffered much greater mortality rates in WWI compared to the Germans, who just weren't as stupid as we were), but also, that the ruskies "won the war" as I was maintaining when we last crossed swords hereabouts...will see how he presents his case.

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Poster: kochman Date: Apr 10, 2009 4:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: More about Jerry's tone: Strings

I think another reason the german army was so good is that it promoted based on experience and skill, rather than just social class (something the other armies hadn't gotten too as well, the US being the closest example). A good, young sergeant became a lieutenant.

This was pretty damn important... that and the germans WERE just naturally militaristic.

Of course, two world wars took most of the fight out of their gene pool.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 10, 2009 7:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: More about Jerry's tone: Strings

You're right on; he outlines this quite well--it was a cultural position to aspire to, and they had multiple "west points", etc., etc.

So, they ended up having many well educated folks pursuing it, working into the officer ranks, etc.

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Apr 10, 2009 3:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: More about Jerry's tone: Strings

Hey, My Grand-Dad fought in WW1...for the Germans. So I agree with what Tell is saying, of course. ;)

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Apr 10, 2009 2:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: More about Jerry's tone: Strings

in the spirt of civility - I deleted my original reply. life's too short

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 10, 2009 4:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: More about Jerry's tone: Strings

Damn! I missed it! What, are we trying NOT to annoy anyone? Reading the rules round here or somthin? Crap. Now I gotta start being careful...

Hey--Bynum is back, and though I worry it's too early, maybe my Lakers have a good shot this year...Just wish our DEADHEAD Walton would become CONSISTENT. Good kid though, regardless. "hustle" (your byword).

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Poster: wineland Date: Apr 10, 2009 1:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: More about Jerry's tone: Strings

"And who wouldn't want to teabag John McCain."

Damn that whole segment was funny. Thank you for forwarding. I am impressed she only really lost it once. My wife forwards me an article from Huffington's nearly everyday. I can't beleive today she sent me the John Stewart video over this report!

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Apr 10, 2009 6:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: More about the Tea Party.

Late to my own tea party...sorry, been out fishing on this fine spring day. Caught and released half a dozen river smallmouths, some nice action on light spinning tackle.

Now, for the truth. These tea parties are not the creation of the media, they are grass roots politics that have received the attention of Fox News. It's been in the works for months...prior to the Rick Santelli outburst on CNBC. I suppose if you wish to point to Fox for being biased enough to cover them, I'm curious if the other "news" outlets are just being "objective" by not covering them?

IMO that you're being duped if you rely on any major network for "balanced" reporting.

Once again, here's a link to an interview recently on Bill Moyer's Journal. I think it's the scariest thing to come along since our financial upset began. When you're finished, ask yourself how the banks have suddenly become profitable in a world where most of the people I know have just lost 50% - 70% of their life's investments.

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/04032009/watch.html